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Post by pixi on Apr 16, 2006 9:02:39 GMT -5
Regarded as one of the most spectacular Poltergeist cases ever recorded, the Enfield Poltergeist case lasted from August 1977 to September 1978. During this time a woman and her four children who were living in a council house in Enfield, London, experienced almost ever single Poltergeist phenomena ever identified. Over 1500 separate phenomena were recorded, from a mild beginning with just a few unexplained sounds, to alleged possession and other more disturbing occurances.Attempts by researchers to prove once and for all the existence of such phenomena failed time after time to actually collect good solid evidence of the events in Enfield. In one instance, a toy brick was said to have materialised out of thin air, flew across the room and hit a photographer on the head. Many items were found to catch fire on their own accord, while metal items seemed to bend and twist out of shape. Most disturbing of all, was the apparant possession of 12 year old Janet, from which came a deep gruff voice on many occassions. Janet was also reported to have been constantly levitated out of bed at night by an unseen force, effectively trapping her on the ceiling in some cases. To this day the sheer length of time over which these phenomena occurred baffles researchers. This is considered to be a true "classic" Poltergeist case. Check out this site for some interesting reading and sequences of pics. (scroll towards the bottom) *click me*
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Post by ricey on Oct 12, 2006 11:04:17 GMT -5
DId you know the girl Janet who was involved in the case, is now living in Brighton and is Now a Jehovahs witness? Jonathon Ross wife did a follow up programme on her.
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Post by pixi on Oct 12, 2006 17:12:38 GMT -5
I watched that too. Was pretty interesting.
I'm not surprised she's turned to some form of religion if her experience was genuine.
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Post by ricey on Oct 15, 2006 9:10:57 GMT -5
pixi. I found he follow up programe fasinating. I do think she believes she had some sort of experience. I also think adults were leading her on.Maurice Gross, the man who conducted the investigation. What about the tape when she spoke in an old mans voice. :eek: That sends a shever down my spine to this day.She is married now and has kids of her own, since the show went out. Glad she is getting on with her life. P.S Did you know the pop star Prince is now a Jehovahs witness? That is weird. Especialy
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Post by pixi on Oct 16, 2006 11:30:10 GMT -5
It is very 'odd' the recording of her voice, whether it was a genuine experience or just a mental health issue I have no idea, but it does creep me out
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Post by ricey on Oct 16, 2006 15:39:17 GMT -5
That is why it's such a good case. They should have Got Derek in to be posessed by him And Mia dolan could have sent him to the light, with her candels and chanting.
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Post by junius on Feb 28, 2008 8:30:24 GMT -5
I remember reading the book about it at the time (I think it was called Haunted House and it was by Guy Lynon Playfiar or something like that). It was a very interesting read. There was obviously something strange going on, however, there were too many explanations to pinpoint it down to one easy and acceptable answer.
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Post by cam on Feb 28, 2008 8:44:39 GMT -5
I saw a programme on this and it suggested that the girls were faking.
How they managed to fool so many is beyond me but having seen the interviews with the girls I have to say that all is not right.
I agree junius..too many variables to pinpoint one explanation.
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Post by junius on Feb 28, 2008 8:58:56 GMT -5
I saw a programme on this and it suggested that the girls were faking. How they managed to fool so many is beyond me but having seen the interviews with the girls I have to say that all is not right. I agree junius..too many variables to pinpoint one explanation. We must never take the first explanation as an answer; the Cottingley Fairies were a good example of that. Those children managed to fool generations, including Sir Conan Doyle (who “authenticated” the pictures). Eventually they owned up to their deceit.... well into the their 80’s. All sides should be examined before attempting to draw a conclusion. Concerning the Enfield haunts; there are still many mysteries surrounding it. Whatever the explanation there was something disturbing about the family; either psychologically or morally.
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Post by cam on Feb 28, 2008 9:07:15 GMT -5
I found it quite disturbing that so many fell for the fairy story. Of course back then there was a lot more naivety I guess and technology was not as good. I think there is a clear case that the girls suffered psychologically. If that was a result of things happening or they had problems before we will never know. Even when all sides have been examined we can still be as mystified as when we started. I am leaning more to them faking it idea than anything else with this one.
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Post by junius on Feb 28, 2008 9:25:35 GMT -5
I found it quite disturbing that so many fell for the fairy story. Of course back then there was a lot more naivety I guess and technology was not as good. I think there is a clear case that the girls suffered psychologically. If that was a result of things happening or they had problems before we will never know. Even when all sides have been examined we can still be as mystified as when we started. I am leaning more to them faking it idea than anything else with this one. Personally, and going by what I’ve read, I don’t think the girls had a psychological problem. Their explanation was that it started off as a prank/ a bit of fun and got carried away; a bit like a runaway train... once it builds up steam and speed it is almost impossible to stop. However, the finger should be pointed at eminent people like Conan Doyle who were taken in. An expert eye would have shown that the pictures were fakes; for instance, the wings on the fairies were motionless, while the stream in the background was blurred; i.e. in motion. They were not in sync with each other, which they should have been. As for the Enfield thing; it could be a mixture of both; faking it and psychological torment (i.e. within themselves).
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Post by cam on Feb 28, 2008 14:02:29 GMT -5
Sorry,I meant the enfield girls had psychological problems.
I agree that Conan Doyle should have been more scientific over the photographs. Its glaringly obvious they were faked.
I feel sorry for the Enfield girls as even now they are still showing signs of having some sort of psychological scars.
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Post by junius on Feb 28, 2008 14:54:12 GMT -5
Sorry,I meant the enfield girls had psychological problems. I agree that Conan Doyle should have been more scientific over the photographs. Its glaringly obvious they were faked. I feel sorry for the Enfield girls as even now they are still showing signs of having some sort of psychological scars. Sometimes such behaviour is a sign of abuse. People can do extraordinary feats when put in emotional turmoil.
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Post by cam on Feb 29, 2008 4:38:33 GMT -5
True although there seemed to be no evidence of any abuse.
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Post by junius on Feb 29, 2008 7:46:20 GMT -5
True although there seemed to be no evidence of any abuse. Maybe not physical abuse, but there could have been some mental abuse. Some victims are abused gradually and over time. Sometimes it can be so subtle that the victims, themselves, don't even know they are being abused.
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Post by cam on Feb 29, 2008 9:02:14 GMT -5
Good point. Could be a reason why they are so messed up.
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