Scientific Proof of an afterlife.

[cam]

Do you think that science will ever be able to prove the existence of an afterlife?..always assuming there is one.

I dont think they can.
How could anyone possibly prove it?

[hiddenscars]

No.

I beleive there is one and I have my own personal proof, which is good enough for me.

But...

If we are talking proof on a global level or any level that is higher than personal, then no.
Simply because there is always going to be at least one person in the world that is going to say... well it could be this, or it could be that.... or there will be some one who says, but I don't beleive it.

There is no way it can be proven through experience or 'evidence' never mind scientifically.

Its just never going to happen. I don't see how it could...

[cam]

I agree.

Belief is and to my mind will always be a personal thing.

I know that parapsychologists have their toys..well Ciaran has many..but what purpose do they serve really.

We need a scientist on here.

[hiddenscars]

The toys prove nothing, well they haven't to me yet, I think for me its always been about personal experience.
There are things I can't explain.

We do need a scientist...

[cam]

*yells* Is there a scientist in the house.

Ciaran uses his toys to measure hot/cold spots ect but given the circumstances he uses them in we cant give any results any credence.

[pixi]

I have to admit I don't think we will ever be able to prove there is an afterlife. As there will always be people who will be able to discredit any evidence.

For example when people are in comas or suffer fits etc.. scientists have monitored there brain frequencies and there are many different theories on what the brain is doing and what the patient is feeling / seeing / believing during that time. However thats all they are, theories. No-one can actually say beyond all doubt what is actually happening to the patient and I feel its a similar thing regarding afterlife.

If any of that makes sense?!

[cam]

I know what you mean pix.

Science does not always get it right and especially where the brain is concerned.

When people who have 'died' and been brought back tell us of what they experienced,science explains it away as the brain dying.How do they know for sure? They cannot possibly know what a persons thoughts are.

[junius]

cam said:

Do you think that science will ever be able to prove the existence of an afterlife?..always assuming there is one.

I dont think they can.
How could anyone possibly prove it?

Science cannot prove everything. There is only one way to find out and that is by passing over to the otherside... and I am not talking about the BBC.

[cam]

Shame that we have to die to find out.

Belief in an afterlife is purely based on either faith or personal experience.
I am not sure science can ever prove for or against.

[junius]

cam said:

Shame that we have to die to find out.

Belief in an afterlife is purely based on either faith or personal experience.
I am not sure science can ever prove for or against.

Maybe it is an individual thing?

[cam]

For sure.

Every believer I have ever spoken to says they believe because of an experience they personally had.

[junius]

cam said:

For sure.

Every believer I have ever spoken to says they believe because of an experience they personally had.

Experiences in life can change one.

[cam]

True...one of my friends was a staunch sceptic...even more so than me.
He had an experience and now he is a total believer.
His whole belief system changed in a flash.

[junius]

cam said:

True...one of my friends was a staunch sceptic...even more so than me.
He had an experience and now he is a total believer.
His whole belief system changed in a flash.

I don't think an experience can prove something either way. There could be rational explanation why your friend experience what they had. Minds can be funny and are capable of playing tricks on you. More so if that person is in an emotional state at the time of their experience.

[cam]

I agree.

I cant go into the kind of experience my friend had as I dont have his permission but he was convinced.

[jovi]

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I don't think an experience can prove something either way. There could be rational explanation why your friend experience what they had. Minds can be funny and are capable of playing tricks on you. More so if that person is in an emotional state at the time of their experience.[/quote]

I don't think that is necessarily true. If you dig deep enough there will be arguments to prove and disprove both sides, very similar to the government's twist on statistics.

Life's experiences are what make us and as we know very little of what is out there who can say what is true and what isn't.

[cam]

If you dig deep enough there will be arguments to prove and disprove both sides

Exactly why there are so many arguments between sceptics and believers.Neither can 100% prove anything.

[junius]

jovi said:

I don't think an experience can prove something either way. There could be rational explanation why your friend experience what they had. Minds can be funny and are capable of playing tricks on you. More so if that person is in an emotional state at the time of their experience.[/quote]

I don't think that is necessarily true. If you dig deep enough there will be arguments to prove and disprove both sides, very similar to the government's twist on statistics.

Life's experiences are what make us and as we know very little of what is out there who can say what is true and what isn't.[/quote]


I can’t argue with that, but it doesn’t stop one from speculating. But we must always question things and try to learn... even if it is only to satisfy our own inquisitiveness.

[cam]

But we must always question things and try to learn... even if it is only to satisfy our own inquisitiveness.

Definately,we cant progress at all if we dont keep questioning.

[junius]

I agree.... space is infinite and I can't imagine that we are the only ones.

[cam]

I think its an arrogance in people to assume we are the be all and end all.

Space is so vast that there is every chance there are other life forms.

Unlike ghosties..we have not got the technology to explore the endless possibilities of space.

[junius]

cam said:

I think its an arrogance in people to assume we are the be all and end all.

Space is so vast that there is every chance there are other life forms.

Unlike ghosties..we have not got the technology to explore the endless possibilities of space.

Exactly..... besides... there must be other worlds.. I know for a fact I didn't come from this Earth...

[cam]

I hope in my lifetime we get some proof of life other than ours.

[junius]

cam said:

I hope in my lifetime we get some proof of life other than ours.

meeting me would be proof lol

I know what you mean... it would be intesting.

[cam]