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Post by cam on Nov 7, 2008 8:51:14 GMT -5
Watched a couple of these and they are too much like ghosthunters...well they would be. I do like looking to see the locations though so I can jot them down for future places to visit.
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Post by Millie on Nov 7, 2008 9:41:41 GMT -5
I like ghosthunters - apart from the Irish guy.
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Post by DragonMaster on Nov 7, 2008 11:11:58 GMT -5
I think they are all cool..TAPS do a good job really. If they had backing like other groups do, they would be a really big hit.
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Post by cam on Nov 7, 2008 11:58:00 GMT -5
Not keen on him myself millie.
Problem is that taps have been found...surprise surprise..to be less than honest. We just cant trust these shows.
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Post by DragonMaster on Nov 7, 2008 12:50:16 GMT -5
Not Honest ?...How ?
I thought ( from what i have seen on TV ) they done a good team setup, with Cams, EVP`s, EMF`s ect.?? They even try to break down everything. So i thought that was good straight away, that way they don`t just think its paranormal, unless theres nothing else to breakdown.?
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Post by cam on Nov 7, 2008 13:16:56 GMT -5
Reverse psychology...they show them debunking a few things so we believe that if they say something is paranormal it must be.
The video of the apparition running towards the camera..it had trainers on plus the moving of the bedclothes..for a show that proclaimed to use cameras to their full advantage was a bit of a rookie mistake to have no camera trained on all the bed,
There is some stuff online about their practices.
Shame we cant trust them since I loved the method of investigation
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Post by DragonMaster on Nov 7, 2008 13:36:33 GMT -5
People always put these investigators down, its the way things go.
I mean, ghosts are seen in full clothing ?, so why not trainers ?? also if the team knew about the bed, the camera would have been put there for a setup, so really where the camera wasn`t fully trained on the bed that can show it was real and not faked.??
Many ways of looking at it. But i think TAPS are doing a good job looking into the Paranormal.
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Post by cam on Nov 7, 2008 13:51:53 GMT -5
I disagree that people put these shows down without good cause.
A monks clothes with trainers.!!!
If they had the camera showing the whole bed they would have caught the man pulling at the sheet to get it to move off his feet.
Taps do investigate in a good way but I dont trust that what they say they get is for real,
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Post by DragonMaster on Nov 7, 2008 14:25:28 GMT -5
people do put things down without good cause. Sceptic and believer put down and defend everyday. Anyway, its all IF IF IF, the facts are they didn`t have the cam on the bed, so really theres no proof it was a man or entity.....Did you see a man pulling the sheet ?? No... see what i mean. Look at this clip....1 min into it you`ll see the bed...the camera was on that big time..my opinion..not faked.. hk.youtube.com/watch?v=1gjtvx2UfIc
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Post by cam on Nov 7, 2008 14:59:45 GMT -5
I agree,it is all ifs and buts.Nobody can say what is real or not except the people on the shows...well apart from when they have been caught outright ala MH.
Look closely at how the covers move up the bed.Why cant we see grant properly? We only see a portion of the bed. Not sure where I first saw the article exposing taps but I believe BP may have something. I think with all these shows its best to take them with a huge pinch of salt.
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Post by DragonMaster on Nov 7, 2008 15:28:00 GMT -5
But you can see the part of the bed that matters ? with grants legs staying still. The question was asked,,,was it him moving his leg...no way lol.. that cover was moved from the top, near his knees.? It also stopped on cam.....ie....not going away from the camera...he was also alone.. ? This is why i like this program, they don`t hide things about how or what they do. Or if cameras should have been placed elsewhere ect. They also admit mistakes
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Post by cam on Nov 7, 2008 15:51:24 GMT -5
You cannot see Grants hands at all,only his lower body.
I dont trust them
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Post by DragonMaster on Nov 7, 2008 16:37:06 GMT -5
Thats what i mean,,you don`t need to see his hands,,the covers stop moving on the camera. you can see that no-one is touching the bed or cover. Also for Grant to do that with them covers, he would need to sit up to move them like that, and as you can see, he wasn`t, he was lying down.
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Post by cam on Nov 7, 2008 17:25:39 GMT -5
Erm...yes we do need to see his hands.
We need to see everything so we can at least say he did not move.
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Post by DragonMaster on Nov 7, 2008 19:47:24 GMT -5
OMG, lol....look at the video cam... he was not moving them covers, he was lying down. the covers started to move near his feet, he would have had to sit up ( which he didn`t ) to touch near his toes to pull the cover like that.
If you lie down,try to touch your shins, without siting up, or moving your lower body...You Can`t..So Grant didn`t do that to them covers with his hands, or his feet... just look at the video....
I would like more views from people on this bed cover debate... watch the video ( 1 min into video ) and tell me what you think...Grant was the one lying in the bed..
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Post by cam on Nov 8, 2008 5:25:49 GMT -5
The covers are ''pulled'' not from the bottom but from towards the top.
We cannot see his hands.
Will be interesting to see what others think.
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Post by DragonMaster on Nov 8, 2008 6:57:03 GMT -5
The covers are pulled from in between his legs, near the bottom of the bed, Starting near his right leg, ending near his left..as the outline showed....This is emma`s view,,,and its the first time she has seen this video...I then asked, Do you thing Grant ( person in bed ) done that to the covers himself....She said....No, he didn`t move and for him to move the covers from the top, you would see anybodys hands and arms....let alone his..
so would like to get others views on this.
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